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I-L: In addition to
their own Emerging Conversation, how do you think Emergents
are also driving Evangelical conversations with regard to
Mary and other historical characters in the Bible?
SMcK: Again, not
sure I see this sort of thing.
I-L: Do you feel
that Evangelicals might consider it a little extreme to
institute an annual “Mary Day” in their calendar? How would
you suggest overcoming their objections, particularly in
light of the fact that they don’t have an “Honor Peter Day”
or “Honor Paul Day”?
SMcK: Do I say an
“annual” Honor Day? I just looked over my last chapter and I
don’t use the word “annual” (unless I skimmed too quickly).
I’m asking churches to have an honor Mary day to study the
Bible and let the Bible say what it says. I’m not asking for
a new day in a Protestant calendar. We honor Paul all the
time; less so for Peter.
I-L: You mention in
your book that Evangelicals accuse Catholics of adding
tradition to their set of beliefs, yet Catholics see this as
a benefit rather than an indictment. How would you propose
overcoming this seemingly insurmountable barrier to mutual
understanding?
SMcK: My own view is
that this Tradition with Bible vs. a “Bible only” approach
is not likely to change any time soon. I don’t think we can
get over this. We have to learn to live with the two
approaches. To help us, I suggest we learn to converse
together with what the Bible does say and that will lead to
genuine communication.
I-L: What are some
stereotypes of Mary you would like to see discarded in both
Catholic and Evangelical traditions?
SMcK: Mary is more
than a pious quiet passive figure; Mary is more than a
mother; Mary is more than a stereotype for niceness.
Mary is not
worshiped in Catholicism; Mary is a powerful woman of faith
with great courage.
I-L: You suggest
that Mary was dangerous and represented a threat to Roman
hegemony. What is it that made this young teen-aged girl
such a threat?
SMcK: If one reads
the Magnificat, Mary’s great song, now found in Luke
1:46-55, and asks this question: “What kind of woman would
say these things when Herod the Great was on the throne and
when Caesar Augustus was seen as the Savior of the World?”
If you ask that question, you will see that this young
woman, Mary, had the courage of the ages. In these words,
whether she did face to face is not the issue, Mary went toe
to toe and nose to nose with the powers that be in light of
the powers that would be. This made her a threat.
I-L: Can you
briefly explain what the traditional expectations Mary might
have had about the Messiah and how Jesus fulfilled or
disappointed those expectations?
SMcK: The Messiah
would be a political king; he would be victorious in
military battle; he would sit on the throne in Jerusalem; he
would restore the kingdom as promised in the Old Testament.
Jesus redefined each
of these: his idea of “political” was “church.” His idea of
“victory” was by way of suffering and self-sacrifice. His
idea of “throne” was “cross.” His idea of restoring OT
promise was to find one’s way to faith in him. No wonder
Mary struggled – with other 1st Century Jews – with
embracing Jesus’ kind of Messiahship.
I-L: How does The
Nativity Story movie compare/contrast with your book?
SMcK: On Mary… I
think the movie delayed lines from the Magnificat far too
long; they do not show up until the end. They are the best
window into seeing Mary’s character. I don’t think the movie
had enough courage in the personality and character of Mary;
she’s too pious and passive.
I-L: How would you
distinguish adoration of Mary from worship of Mary?
SMcK: I prefer
“honor” to either; both of these terms broach issues that
lead too easily to detracting from the glory due Christ
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